Marriage

How do you have a successful marriage? Whether you are a Christian, skeptic, single, longtime married person, or someone about to be engaged—there are many different ways to answer this question. And yet Tim and Kathy Keller argue that the Bible’s vision for marriage is far greater and more glorious than anything our modern culture would have us believe.

On today’s episode of the Great Stories podcast, Charles Morris revisits a conversation from the archives with his old friends Tim and Kathy Keller. Their book, The Meaning of Marriage, serves as a launching off point for this in-depth conversation that covers the gamut of what marriage really means from the Lord’s perspective.


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One of the saddest statistics about marriage is its bleak success rate in the western world. Even in the church, marriages end at an alarmingly high percentage. But on today’s episode of the Great Stories podcast, Charles Morris turns the tables on this narrative by sharing a story of a marriage that ended … only to be redeemed later down the road.

Recorded in 2015, Juana Mikels (author of Choosing Him All Over Again) tells Charles Morris about how she reached a point where she was unhappy with her life, and so she decided to leave her husband, house, and friends to search for happiness. Instead of finding a new Mr. Right, she found Jesus. But what happened next? Would her husband take her back? Listen in to hear this incredible story of how Christ’s love can transform the way we love each other.

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We all have an internal need for something greater in our lives, but we can’t expect our spouse to fill that void. Look to Jesus, instead. Only He can fill your deepest need—the need for Him.


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What if God’s primary intent for your marriage isn’t to make you happy . . . but holy? And, what if your relationship isn’t as much about you and your spouse as it is about you and God?

Gary Thomas is a bestselling author and international speaker who specializes in bringing people closer to Christ and closer to others. In this conversation, Gary and Charles delve deeply into how marriages can become a doorway to a closer walk with Christ and each other. Rather than wasting time with how-to steps that are “guaranteed” to give you a happy marriage, Gary makes the case for friendship, hard work, and holiness. Whether you’re in a relationship or want to be in one, this episode is for you.


Going Deeper

  • Learn more about the principles Gary talked about in this interview in his book Sacred Marriage.
  • Listen to the conversation Charles had with Gary Chapman on the Great Stories podcast here.

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“No love of the natural heart is safe unless the human heart has been satisfied by God first.” –Oswald Chambers

If you looked at the surface of her life, everything was perfect. Juana Mikels was married to a handsome man, Terry. They had good jobs, a brand-new 2,200-square-foot house, nice cars, friends.

And yet, as she says, “Saturday mornings were the worst for me. … The sun would be shining and Terry would be preparing to wash his car and get ready to play golf, and I would be idle and sad.”
At 26, after three and a half years of marriage, Juana was so unhappy with her life that she left her husband, convinced that he was the problem.
She quickly found that living the single life and dating other men didn’t satisfy. For answers about how she could be happy, she tried three counselors and two churches. It was at the second church where a pastor told her, “You’re trying to make a decision about your marriage, Juana. But you’re making the wrong decision. You need to decide what you are going to do with Christ.”
Soon after, her church hosted a marriage conference. Thinking that she hadn’t tried putting counseling and church together, Juana attended. She had never heard the kind of advice that was offered, and it clicked for her.

“I was beginning to get the inkling that a good marriage was not something you found, but something you made. It wasn’t so much about finding the right person, it was being the right person.”

Six months after leaving her husband, Christ took hold of Juana’s life, and she tried to then reconcile with Terry. But he had been so badly hurt that he didn’t want her back.

She knew she couldn’t force Terry to take her back. And she knew that if he didn’t, she might not ever marry again. Nothing was guaranteed except that her life was safe and secure in Jesus’ arms.
Juana had to learn the hard way that choosing her husband all over again really meant choosing Him, Jesus, for the first time.
Juana’s story does end happily, though. After dating each other all over again, and after Juana moved back into their house, the two finally reconciled. Years later, Christ took hold of Terry’s life, too, and today they have four children.
Their story offers hope for marriages that aren’t thriving or are barely surviving. And there’s hope for marriages that are already broken. There’s even hope for those who feel their marriage is beyond repair.
But you need to look in the right place.
We all have an internal need for something greater in our lives, but we can’t expect our spouse to fill that void. Look to Jesus, instead. Only He can fill your deepest need—the need for Him.
Then, you can work on your marriage with hope, knowing that no matter the outcome, God knows what’s best for you and will see it through.
 


Checkpoints to Refresh Your Marriage

Juana offers 10 practical tips that will help make your marriage better—because there’s always room for growth.

1. I will say, “I love you” to my spouse every day (at least once).
2. I will not bring up my spouse’s past failures today.
3. I will put from my mind any weak points of my spouse, which I cannot change, and concentrate on my spouse’s good points.
4. I will seek to bring laughter into my spouse’s life today.
5. I will give my spouse some little gift today, whether a tangible one, or a word or deed.
6. I will not end this day angry with my spouse.
7. I will practice loving patience.
8. I will practice courtesy towards my spouse.
9. I will seek unity of interest.
10. I will pray for my spouse before the day ends.

You can find all of these checkpoints, as well as more ways to refresh your marriage, in Juana’s new book Choosing Him All Over Again. In it, she tells her story and offers tips on how to bring Christ into the center of your marriage.
 
 

Lindsey M. Roberts spent years writing exclusively for secular journalism, including such outlets as The Washington Post, Architect, and Gray magazine, before she first tried to write about Jesus. She’s thrilled to explore in words how everything from cleaning the kitchen three times a day to delighting in the maritime history of Nantucket is an opportunity to meet and glorify God. Lindsey lives with her husband, a pastor and U.S. Army Reserve chaplain, and son in Virginia.

 

“Do any of you like being married?”

My husband asks this question to all of the years-long-married couples in our premarital class at church. I sit there embarrassed because it’s my question that he’s foisting upon the group.
We had been engaged for a few months and were participating in a class in which married couples of 30+ years go through a workbook with engaged couples. Then each married couple is paired with an engaged couple to be marriage mentors.

So far, much of the advice we had heard in this class, whether filtered through advice on finances or childrearing was this: Marriage is hard work.

The thing is, my husband, born in 1982, and I, born in 1983, already knew that. We had seen marriage-blog-quotealmost half of our friends’ parents split, and often, the ones that stuck it out were doing it for tradition’s sake. Our parents’ generation could have been called the Divorce Generation. While the marriage mentors had surely been shocked by how many of their peers’ marriages fell apart, to us, marriage failure was all too normal. If marriage was easy, then certainly this would not be the case. The question we had, was, if it’s so hard, then why do it?

Fortunately, there was one husband in the class who spoke up to answer the question. “My wife and I are best friends,” he said. “We have had a blast.” He and his wife became our mentors, and seven years later we still get together for dinner to talk and share wisdom.

Our mentors don’t have a great marriage because they have had an easy go at life since they tied the knot. Not at all. They have trudged through many serious and scary heartaches with their three kids, finances, and the like. Our mentors have a great marriage because they have had to fight for it the whole way, trusting in Jesus. They were forced to be proactive and nurturing in their marriage, even to the point of delighting in dates to Wal-Mart. “Fall forward,” they taught us. In times of crisis, fall into each other, not away from each other.

Today, with their children grown and thriving, they still work together at the church, they take cruises, and they have developed a shared hobby of running in timed races. We have bumped into them cheering each other on at more than one 5K. (What a metaphor that is!)

I have said these things to you, that in me you may have peace. In the world, you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world. – John 16:33

One of many things that this couple has taught us is that marriage is hard work, but it’s the kind of hard work that produces a deep friendship and understanding of the other person. At each turn, we, like them, should choose not to despair. We should choose Jesus, choose joy. With their example as our guide, my husband and I choose not to be mired in the myriad of hardships we’ve faced: potential cancer and surgery, military deployment to a war zone, job loss, and moving again and again.

To put it simply, my husband is my best friend. And we work every step of our journey to have a blast, too.

Though we did the traditional premarital counseling and found it helpful, Stephen and I tell all engaged couples that the real work starts after the wedding. It’s when you’re finally, finally, a Mr. and Mrs. that each person’s sin meets the other’s sin in a kind of explosion. That boom of potential destruction, though, can be turned into one of a thrilling experience, more like fireworks than a thunderbolt. For this reason, my husband and I kept meeting with our mentors and got a year of nontraditional Christian post-marital counseling. As we fought through the thorny brambles of petty disagreements, our love grew. We started to laugh more at our foibles than get frustrated.

In the book Sacred Marriage, Gary Thomas writes, “In a society where relationships are discarded with a frightening regularity, Christians can command attention simply by staying married.”

If we want to be a witness to the world, one of the most powerful things we can do is love our spouse and keep loving our spouse. We can show the world what it looks like when best friends use trials to bring them closer.

The real challenge is not just to stay married; it’s to persevere in forgiveness, friendship, and love. Therein is found a great adventure, more worthy of poetry and novels than any forbidden romance.

May God bless us on our quest.

Lindsey M. Roberts spent years writing exclusively for secular journalism, including such outlets as The Washington Post, Architect, and Gray magazine before she first tried to write about Jesus. She’s thrilled to explore in words how everything from cleaning the kitchen three times a day to delighting in the maritime history of Nantucket is an opportunity to meet and glorify God. Lindsey lives with her husband, a pastor and U.S. Army Reserve chaplain, and two children in Wisconsin.